5 Questions: Joe Vargo on Pinterest

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See Monterey on Pinterest

I heard about Pinterest from my mom, the perfect match for the DIY demographic.

Troy, check out this site…Pin-interest…she called it.  Ah moms, love that.

Then, I kept hearing the name from friends, peers and complete strangers. At the same time, DMOs such as Experience Columbus, See Monterey and Visit Savannah were building pinboards for their  tourism destinations.  I began to wonder, could Pinterest be a valuable tool for DMOs and CVBs?

And a more poignant thought, is Pinterest the ideal way, even better than your own website, to inspire visitors about your destination?

Finally, during my research for our recent article, 2012 Forecast: The Other Social Networks, I spoke with Joe Vargo from Experience Columbus who provided a brilliant moment of clarity.

More than a simple bookmarking tool and beyond the strong visual appeal of the site, Pinterest is an inspirational window into what people want their lives to look like.

For destinations it means that potential visitors are now openly sharing their travel bucket-list.

What does a DMO or CVB do with this information, this new community, this new social site?

I am not sure, but Joe has got me thinking about it.

 

5 Questions on Pinterest with Joe Vargo

How did Experience Columbus learn about Pinterest?

Experience Columbus found Pinterest in perhaps the most medium-appropriate way:  Serendipity.

My wife (a non-techy person who is pretty typical of our target market) started using it for home design projects, and the more I looked over her shoulder, the more sense it made from a destination marketing perspective.  I started my own account to play around with it, and my wife and I planned a vacation together (separately, from our own laptops, as things tend to go these days) via a pinboard – it’s an incredibly good collaborative travel planning tool.

How do you see Pinterest working for tourism destinations?

In a destination like Columbus, we realize we have a pretty flat image – photography and video are a great way to start to solve this problem as we have a great product to offer and overdeliver on visitor experience.  Pinterest also allows destinations to show their complex personalities – something that’s nearly impossible to write into web copy.

Where we have great photography assets, we’re pinning them (particularly from our blog).  We’re also strategically pinning images linking back all the earned media coverage we’ve generated – no sense in letting that go to waste, a third-party recommendation is worth way more to me than a link back to my sites.

And of course, there are those beauty shots that don’t link anywhere valuable, but if the images are stellar enough, they’re worth a pin.

Isn’t Pinterest just about crafts?

Pinterest isn’t really about crafts – it’s about aspirations.

Sure, a lot of people use it to help them catalog and access craft ideas/wedding ideas/food ideas for the future.  But we all know people’s Pinterest boards aren’t reflections of their lives – they’re reflections of what they want their lives to be like.

Travel aspirations fit neatly into that, and luckily for Columbus, getting here isn’t a huge reach – we’re accessible and affordable.  We’re using Pinterest to give people reasons to come now rather than later.

We’re also trying hard to make our pins useable for planning a trip.  As the community develops, I think there will be a lot of traction; not just with collaborative, visual trip planning, but also with the “Gifts” (Price tag) feature.

Who is active within your Pinterest group?

I get a good sense that our target markets (moms with young kids in the household, foodies, young professionals) are strongly represented on Pinterest, as compared to other new social networks, like Google+.

It’s really the best form of social marketing when someone takes an image of your destination and adds it to their aspirational life (endorsing the destination to their followers.)

Talk about Pinterest versus the other social sites.

While Facebook is vital and nearly universal, marketers keep seeing their value of their efforts decline with every change there.  Twitter has long been and foreseeably will be a great network for conversations and updates.

Foodspotting and Foursquare are great for offering detailed recommendations.  Flickr and YouTube are great for showing off a destination rather than talking about it, but they’re not terribly social.

Pinterest is a good blend of the visual emphasis of YouTube and Flickr combined with the social aspects of Facebook and Twitter.

Our thanks to Joe for being so kind with his time…we know he has a lot of pinning to do.

  • http://www.kaywalten.com Kay Walten

    Excellent article and I could not agree more.  I think it is an excellent vehicle for destination, travel marketing. 

    • http://www.travel2dot0.com/ Troy Thompson

      Thanks Kay, appreciate the comment.

      While some other social networks feel like a stretch for destinations, Pinterest feels like a nice complement.

      It will be very interesting to see how it develops of the next 6-12 months.

      - Troy

  • Todd Wright

    It’s funny how everyone is finding pinterest – mums and wives. My wife is also using pinterest and I asked her to start a board for me on marketing and technology. We are planning a trip to new York in may and think I have just stumbled across a great way to start curating our itinerary. Interested to see how a DMO will evaluate ROI on an activity like this and will it ever become more than just a ‘fringe-social’ activity?

  • http://twitter.com/stlandau Stephen Landau

    Great interview Troy. Now if I could only find the time to actually work on curating my own Pinboard.

    All kidding aside, one of the great things about Pinterest is its limited functionality. You can’t pin just anything… you can only pin something visual. We’ve found for many travel/tourism clients, people really like photos and videos. Seems like a no brainer, but it is surprising how many sites don’t take advantage of this. While I don’t believe the adage that “people don’t read on the internet” (they will read something worth reading, but that’s a separate post), photos and videos certainly can convey a lot of information and inspiration quickly.

    • http://www.travel2dot0.com/ Troy Thompson

      Thanks Stephen, great comment.

      Agreed, Pinterest forces one to post interesting visuals, unlike Snip.it, for example.  For me that is the key and the source of my interest in Pinterest.

      So simple, so basic, but when I visit a board like See Monterey, I am immediately met with 10+ visuals that instantly explain what a vacation to Monterey could be like.

      While there are a lot of ‘other’ social sites available, Pinterest feels like a fit for tourism destinations.

      - Troy

  • http://socialhospitality.com Debbie Miller

    Great article! It’s so cool hearing first-hand the logic behind a business jumping on board. There is so much potential for destinations and other venues using Pinterest.

    • http://www.travel2dot0.com/ Troy Thompson

      Thanks Debbie.

      I love that…first-hand logic.  So much better than the typical, ‘everyone else is doing it.’

      - Troy

  • http://www.facebook.com/roncallari Ron Callari

    Hi Troy, your post opened my eyes to a site I was about to write off for “scrap-bookers only.” With ‘Experience Columbus’ taking the lead, I think Pinterest would be an ideal engagement site for the travel industry in general and Flip.to (http://flip.to ) specifically. Since our platform integrates with hotels’ and airline booking engines – and our customer base just passed the 100th acct milestone – I see a lot of applications for Flip.to to display all of our photogenic clientele. Thanks for your research and insight.

  • http://www.travel2dot0.com/ Troy Thompson

    Hey Ron,

    Thanks for the comment.

    Same here, I was not sure what to expect with Pinterest, but I was presently surprised with the work from Columbus, Savannah, Monterey and others.

    It is still developing, but the opportunity is certainly there.

    - Troy

  • http://www.travel2dot0.com/ Troy Thompson

    Hey Todd,

    Thanks for the comment.

    Agreed on the ROI question.  I would assume there are several organizations interested in learning when their product is on the ‘wish list.’  I would not be surprised if Pinterest builds it monetization model around that knowledge.

    - Troy

  • Phil Bruno

    My wife and I are doing the planning by separate pc thing. Now we’ll do the Pinterest thing too.
    Thanks guys.

    • http://www.travel2dot0.com/ Troy Thompson

      Hey Phil,

      Thanks for the comment.  Let us know how it goes…you are the guinea pig for this whole Pinterest planning idea. Heh.

      - Troy